Featured Frequently Asked Questions
1.Is there a 123ignition for my specific engine available?

Take a look at the wide range of 123ignition products. First please compare the dimensions of the line drawings with your original distributor to be sure you have picked the right mechanical model. The following thing to check are the advance curves. The "Switch" version offers 16 pre-programmed advance curves listed in the curve table. When the advance curves doesn't match with your specific engine, probably the programmable 123TUNE or 123TUNE+ is the right choice for you. With the programmable units it is possible to program your own advance curve. Please be aware you have to find the original curve data yourself, 123ignition doesn't have curve data available.

2.How much are the shipping costs?

Please click on the link for an extensive overview of our delivery times and shipping costs.

3.What to do when no 123ignition is suitable for my car, boat or other vehicle?

Of course we will try to help you out when no 'standard' 123ignition seems to be suitable. To be able to do so we ask you to send by e-mail (info@123ignitionshop.com) information on your currently used distributor: Brand, type, pictures (outside the engine, especially the shaft) and drawings with dimensions. First we will try to find out whether there perhaps after all is a 'standard' 123ignition. If not our fine mechanic can adapt a 123/TUNE (USB) or 123/TUNE+ (bluetooth) to fit the sizes of your current distributor. Please note: when your current distributor has a cogwheel we most probably will want to re-use this cogwheel.  With the information in the technical books about your car you can program the advance curves into the 123TUNE(+) yourself. Or you can send this information to us and we will program the unit.
Please see our Facebook page for examples.

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5.Installation sparkplug leads [video]

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7.How does the vacuum advance work (and why do I want that)?

How it works:

When much is required of the engine, it is more likely to ping (poor mixture) than if the engine is running effortless (rich mixture). If we give more pre-ignition to an effortless running engine, the efficiency will increase and the engine will use less fuel.

The vacuum in the intake manifold is a measure of the load on the engine. (floor it up the mountain = gas valve open -> little underpressure. Cruising down the mountain = gas valve partially closed -> a lot of under pressure/vacuum). This means that if there is a vacuum in the intake manifold, we can advance the ignition a little.

Why you'd want this:

In summary: through the use of vacuum advance we can decrease the fuel consumption, the combustion will be cleaner and the efficiency will improve.

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General questions
1 .Is there a 123ignition for my specific engine available?

Take a look at the wide range of 123ignition products. First please compare the dimensions of the line drawings with your original distributor to be sure you have picked the right mechanical model. The following thing to check are the advance curves. The "Switch" version offers 16 pre-programmed advance curves listed in the curve table. When the advance curves doesn't match with your specific engine, probably the programmable 123TUNE or 123TUNE+ is the right choice for you. With the programmable units it is possible to program your own advance curve. Please be aware you have to find the original curve data yourself, 123ignition doesn't have curve data available.

2 .How much are the shipping costs?

Please click on the link for an extensive overview of our delivery times and shipping costs.

3 .When can I expect my order to arrive?

We ship to every country on this beautifull planet! Your order will generally be shipped within 1 working day after acceptance of the payment. The parcel is sent insured and with a track & trace service so you will know when to expect the delivery man at your doorstep. In case the ordered product is out of stock at the time of ordering, it will take an average of one week before we are able to have it shipped. From there on the delivery time is out of our controle and up to the delivery service. The delivery time within the Netherlands should be 1 - 2 working days. Within Europe you may count on 3 - 5 working days. All parcels sent outside Europe will be sent by air mail.  

4 .What to do when no 123ignition is suitable for my car, boat or other vehicle?

Of course we will try to help you out when no 'standard' 123ignition seems to be suitable. To be able to do so we ask you to send by e-mail (info@123ignitionshop.com) information on your currently used distributor: Brand, type, pictures (outside the engine, especially the shaft) and drawings with dimensions. First we will try to find out whether there perhaps after all is a 'standard' 123ignition. If not our fine mechanic can adapt a 123/TUNE (USB) or 123/TUNE+ (bluetooth) to fit the sizes of your current distributor. Please note: when your current distributor has a cogwheel we most probably will want to re-use this cogwheel.  With the information in the technical books about your car you can program the advance curves into the 123TUNE(+) yourself. Or you can send this information to us and we will program the unit.
Please see our Facebook page for examples.

5 .When do I choose the TUNE USB version and when the TUNE + Bluetooth version?
If your car runs on 2 types of fuel (usually gasoline and gas), the TUNE USB version is recommended. With this version you can easily switch between two curves: curve 1 is the standard to which the yellow wire is not connected and for curve 2 you connect the yellow wire. You can, for example, install this in such a way that the contacting of the yellow wire with the distributor is controlled via a switch in the dashboard.
Attention point for the TUNE USB version: the connector for the plug is fragile.

In all other cases we recommend the TUNE + Bluetooth version. This has the great advantage that the curve is very easy to change using the app on your phone or tablet. Great if you want to regularly "play" with the curve because you are driving a rally, for example. But also if you have a modified motor or a motor for which no standard 123ignition with the correct pre-programmed curve is available. In those cases you can probably do well with a fixed curve. Even then you are well off with the Tune + bluetoot version, because via your telephone you can read all kinds of measurements from, for example, the speed and the engine temperature. Moreover, there is an anti-theft option on this version.
Attention point for the TUNE + Bluetooth version: the software is regularly updated, which means that the app also needs to be regularly updated
Technical Questions
1 .Which type of HT leads do I need to use with 123ignition?

It is always possible to use your original HT-leads for the original look. Even when your engine has solid copper core cables it would work with a 123ignition. For the best performance we advise "carbon tension leads". These cables have a little resistance and very good isolation. Of course you can buy these leads at 123igntionshop.com. See here which sets we sell.

2 .Which coil to use with the 123ignition unit?

This depends on your engine:
- On a Citroen 2cv: DON'T use other coils than the standard. Best advise : buy a new black 2CV-coil, and new (silicone) ignition leads. The Brown VISA coil will ruin your ignition because these coils have a very low primary resistance.
- For 2 cylinder DAF or FIAT engines you could use the stock coil or an other standard coil ( about 3 Ohm primary resistance )
- For 4 cylinder engines you could use the original coil or other coils with a primary resistance of at least 1.0 Ohm. For standard street engines we advise a "Bosch Blue" or "Beru ZS106" coil. For high rpm engines a "Bosch red (0 221 119 030)" or "Beru ZS109" is much better.
- For 6 cylinder engines we advise to change your coil to a high performance coil because of the short load time in the higher rpm range. Make sure you use coils with a primary resistance of at least 1.0 Ohm. ( 1,0 Ohm or more ) For standard street engines we advise a "Bosch Blue" or "Beru ZS106" coil. For high rpm engines a "Bosch red (0 221 119 030)" or "Beru ZS109" is much better.
- For 8 cylinder engines we advise to chance yor coil to a high performance coil because of the very short load time in the higher rpm range. Make sure you use coils with a primary resistance of at least 0.6 Ohm. ( 0,6 Ohm or more ) For low rpm engines a "Bosch red (0 221 119 030)" or "Beru ZS109" will be a good choice, for higher rpm engines we advise a special coil for V8.

Note: We hear a lot of complains from our customers about the fake "Lucas Sport" or "Lucas gold" coils, better don't use these coils.

3 .It looks like, after a few kilometers/ miles driving, the engine misfires. What to do?

In some cases a very unstable boardnet voltage can cause misfires. The 123ignition is protected against high voltage peaks and goes in protection mode for a split second when a spike is detected. Most of the time this error occurs when the car battery is charged full again and the voltage regulator starts to work. This problem can be caused by a broken alternator / dynamo or bad voltage regulator. Unfortunately this is impossible to measure with just a standard voltage meter because we talk about high voltage spikes of micro seconds. You could easily test this to drive a while without working alternator / dynamo. Use a fully charged car battery and make sure no other important systems are driven by the dynamo belt, like the coolant pump!!!

4 .It looks like my engine misfires in the high rpm range, what can cause this problem?

The car battery has to put enough energy into the coil for a powerful spark. In the higher rpm range the time to do this is very short, so all conditions have to be perfect for good performance. Make sure you are using the right coil for your engine, see: "What kind of coil do you recommend?" Resistance somewhere in the primary circuit can cause a lot of ignition problems as well, think about the following: - Coil and ignition wiring: Use good connectors and cables of good quality - Ignition key: Make sure the dashboard ignition key is in good condition ( test to power the ignition/coil direct from the battery ) - Ground connection of the distributor: Make sure the distributor makes a good electrical connection with the engine.

5 .What kind of sparkplugs do you recommend?

Always use the spark plugs for your engine specified by the manufacturer of the car!

6 .What kind of tablet or smartphone do I need for the programmable 123/TUNE+?

The app for the programmable 123TUNE+ is available for iOS and Android. Please make sure your device offers Bluetooth 4.0 low energy and an up-to-date operating system (Android 4.4 or newer)

7 .What PC operating system does the programmable 123/TUNE (USB) run on? 

The 123TUNE runs on Windows 10, Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows Vista & Windows XP (Service Pack 2). Unfortunately there is no iOS or Linux version available. Note: USB A ---> USB mini cable not included.

8 .Combination Tune+ Bleutooth and Android 7.0

With Android phones, the android operating system is often adjusted by the manufacturer so that this works well for this particular phone. It turns out that the combination of Low power Bleutooth and Android 7.0 does not always work well, which of course we find very annoying. If it affects you, you really have nothing left but to wait for a software update from your telephone manufacturer. We do not know which phones are going well and which are not, so we would like to receive an email from you if you use a 123 Tune + in combination with an Android 7.0 operating system. In this way we can state below which combinations do work and which do not.
- Works with Android 7.0: Doogee S60
- Does not work with Android 7.0: Motorola MotoG5

9 .Will my tachometer (RPM) work with the 123ignition?

Yes, by far most of the tachometers work in combination with a 123ignition. RVI type tachometers manufactured by the Smiths Company, will not work properly though. We have found two companies that offer solutions to this problem. They use the existing rev.counter to replace the electronics with another printed circuit board. In the UK this is done by JDO-instruments ( www.jdo1.com ).

10 .What does the blue Led of the 123/Tune+ show us?

On the Tune + is a blue LED that shows the following:

LED on: the 123 / Tune + is ready for a connection
LED off: the 123 / Tune + is connected
Flashing: the 123 / Tune + must be reset

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